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    Vol. 13 No. 21                      THE AIR CARGO NEWS THOUGHT LEADER                                Monday March 3 , 2014
Face Off Header    Here are two opinions on FlyingTypers coverage this week, "Voices From UPS Flight 1354."
   Since in many ways we are a family, FlyingTypers people follow familiar patterns, including occasionally disagreeing.
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     Every passenger flight leaving the U.S. for Europe is essentially a night flight.
     Last year I flew Vienna to Tel Aviv—a 4-hour flight that left VIE at 8:20pm and arrived TLV 01:30am.
Examples are numerous worldwide for pax flights operating during the night.
     Yes, they also operate a lot more during the day, but there's much night flying involved.
     Same aircraft, same airports, not sure I understand exactly where's the beef.
     Conversations among crew members in the cockpit often involve complaining about the airline executives and the big bucks they make while the pilots work so very hard—all of 80 hours a month.
     Many operations staff, flight planners, aircraft dispatchers, flight controllers and so forth work around the clock, also long nights and many hours, and don't make anywhere near what a pilot earns, and while not observing the computers doing their magic in flight, they bear significant responsibility for safe and secure flight operations.
     And they have no ALPA holding their hands either...
Ted


      I basically agree with several points you make.
     But to your words 'not making anywhere near what a pilot makes,'—according to the Comair accident report, the F/O made about $41,000 USD a year, which is not unusual when you work for commuter airlines.
     Now balance that salary against the fact that a pilot must pay off his initial pilot training, which generally costs between $150,000 and $300,000 USD, against a salary base driven by the fact that almost nobody wants to hire a F/O with less than 1,500 flight hours.
     Also a pilot must purchase expensive insurance to cover against disability.
     For example—if you fail your annual medical rating, you're out of a job!
     I spoke to a Ryanair F/O who said that he earned 1,600 Euros gross a month and continues to live at home with his parents, since his loan for training and initial B737 type rating costs about 750 Euros a month.
     In an interesting development, I also learned that Ryanair has hired self-employed pilots that are paid a contract fee all-in . . . netting about 4,500 Euros a month.
     While that sounds like a lot of money, these people that have chosen a flying career need to cover insurances, taxes, and everything else, including their cost of living.
     You are absolutely correct to point out that load-planners, ramp agents, etc are seriously underrated (and underpaid).
     Been there, done that, LOL.
Jens

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