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          |  |       Some people like to say “less 
        is more.”But a couple of years ago when I started 
        writing about Kale Logistics Solutions we were privileged to get to know, 
        albeit from a distance, Amar More, CEO of the company and a main driver 
        in dreaming up a better way to move cargo via the Kale Airport Cargo Community 
        System.
 
  Amar, 
        we have learned from our interactions and his writings, is fiercely smart. But we have also observed he is quite a 
        lovely, soft-spoken, kind, considerate and loyal individual who cherishes 
        family and life and is a very reliable business colleague.
 What we publish now is a unique dialogue 
        with Amar More, whom we know to be an expert and a consummate businessman.
 The level of the material we are presenting 
        and the answers Amar contributed will surely capture the attention of 
        the best-informed readers.
 Although Amar’s last name is pronounced 
        in English with the “e” as a long “a”, we think 
        that the idiom “less is more” when talking to Amar is overtaken 
        by clear innovative inventive thinking:
 More is more!
 
 Keyword:  Takeaway
 What would you like shippers and logistics providers to know about 
        Kale Logistics in a paragraph or two of take away from the Miami air cargo 
        event this week.
 Kale Logistics has a vision to facilitate 
        the global trade through technology. We have created next generation technology 
        platforms that facilitate digital interactions between different stakeholders 
        of the value chain to improve efficiency (by increasing the speed of cargo 
        movement), to improve sustainability (by reducing carbon emissions and 
        paper requirements), to improve visibility (by providing a single window 
        for tracking shipments) and to make supply chains more secure (by advance 
        exchange of data).
 Our platforms are live and vibrant creating communities around the airports, 
        ports and inland ports across the world. We are digitizing 150+ airports 
        and ports across 40+ countries today trying to implement the best practices 
        and learnings from this global experience into our products which can 
        immensely benefit our customers.
 
 Keyword:  Cooperation vs. 
        Competition
 Considering that your global experience is quite unique, what is your 
        view on how the cargo airlines and their freight forwarder partners’ 
        role has changed in today’s world?
 Excellent question. Everything about our 
        business in about collaboration. I mean we are facilitating digital collaboration 
        but the whole logistics industry is all about collaboration. If forwarders 
        and airlines don’t collaborate (co-operate) with each other, they 
        will never ever be able to deliver the goods on time. I am so happy to 
        see that a lot of things have changed in today’s world for the supply 
        chain partners. Initiatives such as e-AWB were once believed to have skewed 
        benefits across the stakeholders but now we see significant progress in 
        the adoption of such digitization initiatives. Online booking portals 
        once considered as a taboo in the air freight industry are slowly capturing 
        the markets. More and more airlines systems are getting connected to the 
        forwarder systems using APIs. So in spite of different and sometimes, 
        conflicting objectives, the community has realized the need for better 
        co-operation/collaboration to serve the end customers – BCOs. And 
        we at Kale are happy to be at the centre of facilitating this collaboration 
        through our technology platforms.
 
 Keyword:  Dealing With Obstacles.
 Please name three great challenges in your daily business and how 
        you handle them? Was finding solutions in this regard also counting as 
        a learning curve and how?
 My most spontaneous answer to your question 
        is 3 challenges are Mindset, Mindset and Mindset . Everything starts there. 
        The tools, the technologies, the solutions are not rocket science and 
        these are all there to be taken but the important thing is the mindset 
        to change. If one steps out of the daily grind and looks at what they 
        do everyday; one can come up with at least 2-3 new ideas to make the work 
        more efficient and in our industry more sustainable (i.e. identify the 
        copies of paper one doesn’t need to print to move a shipment) and 
        more transparent fashion.
 The mindset change is effectuated by good 
        leadership and openness of the team to accept ideas that lead to a better 
        future. From our side, this requires a continual market education. We 
        are trying to change the industry and the way it handles/moves shipment 
        forever and for better and the change has to be ushered in, in a way that 
        will be easy to absorb by the industry. So breaking the task into small; 
        achievable targets; conducting proof of concepts to engender confidence 
        in the users; educating the leadership on the salutary benefits of the 
        change/digitization are some of the steps we are taking. Finally, the 
        change has to be driven by a neutral entity so that it is not being looked 
        at suspiciously by the rest; and here we believe the airports and ports 
        should be leading these changes as they are neutral and dominant players 
        in the supply chain and have everything to benefit from the effects of 
        digitization viz. job creation, sustainability, efficiency.
 
 Keyword:  Dealing With Failures
 Kale Logistics has a reputation as hands-on problem solvers. Please 
        name a couple of major practical problems that Kale has solved or at least 
        lessened for clients.
 Absolutely. I always love to quote the example 
        of one of the largest cargo airports in south Asia that we have worked 
        with who had a problem of processing more cargo in the same available 
        space. Only way this could be done if we increased the velocity of cargo 
        movement which in turn increases throughput of the existing facility. 
        We studied the factors that were slowing down the velocity, like trucks 
        arriving at the airports in bunches, paperwork making the truck and cargo 
        wait, handlers not knowing how much cargo was coming exactly when and 
        trucks not having cargo ready for delivery clogging the queues. We created 
        the platform where paperwork could be done in advance of trucks coming 
        to the airport through our cloud-based platforms and trucks came by appointment. 
        This indeed increased the throughput of the facility by 225% which means 
        the facility could process almost thrice the amount of cargo in the same 
        space. We received global recognition for this work.
 Another one of my favorites is reducing 
        the container dwell time at a maritime port by 75% and reducing the time 
        for exporters to receive the tax refunds from 6 months to 3 days by creating 
        a community platform that allowed accurate exchange of information between 
        the tax authorities and the logistics movements and milestones.
 
 Keyword:  Brave New World
 Can you go out on a limb and identify by challenge something you would 
        like to see changed in how the air cargo business is conducted?
 I think for me the industry recognizes the 
        benefits of digitization but each is looking at the other’s face 
        to start the change. I would say that in our industry the airports need 
        to play a more active role in changing the status quo in cargo and getting 
        the community together on the journey of a digital future.
 
 Keyword:  Competition
 Why ship Via Kale Logistic empowerment program? What are the advantages?
 First and foremost a proven track record 
        for changing the status quo in the industry and this is not reflected 
        just in the awards we received for our work at neutral industry forums 
        like the United Nations but also by major universities covering our work 
        as pathbreaking and leading in improving the status of the industry. Just 
        the sheer breadth of digitization use cases that we have developed in 
        our community platforms / trade facilitation platforms sets us apart. 
        Our platforms have features for the exporters, importers, forwarders, 
        customs brokers, truckers, airlines, airports, handlers, customs, OGAs 
        / PGAs, security agencies etc. this is more comprehensive than anything 
        else. The customer base of 150+ airports, ports and handlers across 40+ 
        countries in facilitating trade speaks about the benefits our platform 
        continue to deliver.
 I will classify benefits into efficiency 
        (increasing speed and throughput of cargo facilities); alleviating congestion, 
        reducing paperwork thereby cutting less trees and reducing carbon emissions 
        by reducing the wait times for trucks, enabling better planning through 
        advanced shipment information to the next stakeholder in the value chain; 
        enabling better and reliable visibility thereby reducing inventory costs, 
        giving the airports the ability to attract more cargo thereby creating 
        more jobs in the eco-system and finally giving more resiliency to supply 
        chains to handle pandemic or war situations better.
 
 Keyword:  Learning From Adversities
 Has the pandemic experience had a lasting influence on the way your 
        business is handled?
 We had an immense positive influence thanks 
        to the pandemic. Pandemic necessitated 3 things for the industry viz. 
        ability to work from anywhere, reduce the medium of transmission of virus 
        viz. paper and have social distancing viz. decongest airport/port facilities. 
        We incorporated most features in our platform to address the above and 
        make our customers more resilient to tackle pandemic-like situations.
 For our internal work, we figured out that 
        a lot can be get done remotely. We had a record number of orders during 
        the pandemic and we executed most of those remotely. This gave us the 
        confidence that we can get work done remotely and that opened a new vista 
        for us to hire talent globally as well as from remote places. In fact, 
        to contribute to the society we hired a lot of talent from tier 2, tier 
        3 cities which created job opportunities in these places.
 
 Keyword:  Bigger And Bigger 
        Data?
 What is your view of advanced analytics as leveraging data techniques 
        like machine learning (AI), deep learning (as a subset of machine learning), 
        and does agile software development emerge increasingly important in your 
        work?
 Absolutely. I will first address the question 
        on agile development. It is the only way for us to move forward. We have 
        re-aligned our organization to the agile software development methodology 
        and we already see the results of the same.
 On Machine Learning and AI it is absolutely 
        important not just to us, but for our customers as well. So today in our 
        truck traffic management module we have the components of AI; our pioneering 
        .pdf to EDI service has machine learning technology for intelligent data 
        capture. We are doing AI-based chatbots for our customers as well as our 
        internal stakeholders. As Kale we have an internal AI portal called KAITE 
        that our internal teams use across functions such as development, legal, 
        HR, Sales etc.
 We firmly believe Machine Learning and AI 
        will have a significant impact on our future as well as on our customers’ 
        future as well.
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